Sent in: The Stones – through the past darkly

Rolling Stones - London Hyde Park II 2022

Hi there, folks! Christopher J. just sent in this piece of work – his thoughts about the band on it’s way through the decades. He sent this in with the intention to discuss his opinion.
So if you would like to comment on this, feel free to do so! 🙂

Here is Christopher’s text:

If you ask me, the Stones were in fact 3 installments of 1 band and it’s not Brian Jones, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood – although it could be close in the studio but these installments went something like this. And I’m writing this for debate.

1. The Stones in the 60’s – Keith says it all when he says I was a pop star once. Primarily a studio band. Learning as they go, developing into something never seen before, looking for the right pieces. The core is in tact and it looks like this, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Ian Stewart,.

2. The Stones 1970-1982. The Greatest Rock and Roll band in the world, writing the rules for Rock as they go. Putting the right people in place and playing to their strengths. It all comes together with the addition of Ronnie Wood. The creation of Rolling Stones records and the dismissal of previous management gives them creative control over the band and their future. The building phase is complete. Without a doubt a truly great studio band, although not as successful on the charts as they were in the 1960’s … they aren’t pop stars leading a generation anymore either. Every time the band toured it was a big deal. Even when they sucked live they were great.

Then came the hiatus. Many people blamed it on a feud between Mick and Keith which was always there. Keith never misses a chance to take a shot at Mick and Mick never passes up an opportunity inside or outside of the Stones. I’m not sure the band even realized it themselves, Keith said he was blasted out of his mind into the 80’s and didn’t do any of the office work handled by Mick. When Keith came back down out of the stratosphere he wanted to make up for most time and pull his fair share of the weight but Mick didn’t want help. If you ask me what kept the Stones off the road until 1989 was a sad unfortunate event and it was the death of Ian Stewart. If you’ve ever been in a band you know that there isn’t just one quarterback. You have several. You have your quarterback off stage, booking gigs and taking care of finances, your quarterback on stage, the true leader of the band on stage, and you have your musical quarterback, in a lot of bands this was either the bass player or the piano player. Bill Wyman always looked bored and not having Stew around probably led to his retirement ultimately after Steel Wheels. Bill was Stu’s friend. The Stones had to learn how to be a band again. Which brings me to…

3. The Rolling Stones post Ian Stewart, 1989 – present. I don’t even want to discuss post Charlie Watts but it’s the same band musically, just not as good. Ian Stewart was the musical director of The Rolling Stones since its creation. A core member. The brains and talent behind the scenes. The reason why they didn’t tour between Tattoo You and Steel Wheels was not because Mick and Keith didn’t get along, they never did, it was because they lost Stu. In comes Chuck Leavell, the current musical director of the Stones and you have the third version of the Stones. In fact there is video on YoutTube of the Stones rehearsals in France circa 1985. Chuck Leavell is there.

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This version didn’t come into its own until the late 90’s, Bill Wyman retired and they hired Darryl Jones who might be a better bass player live than Wyman but not as an original bass player as Wyman. Jones plays more or a traditional Chicago back beat whereas Wyman was in a league all his own. For this installment of the Stones, post Ian Stewart, Darryl came into his own and they were good on the VooDoo lounge tour but by Bridges to Babylon they were something else, a reinvented Rolling Stones where Chuck Leavell, Darryl Jones, Lisa Fischer, Tim Ries, and Bernard Fowler became just as intricate to the band on the road as Mick, Keith, Ronnie, and Charlie. If the Stones hire the wrong people after the death of Ian Stewart they are not who they are today.

Now I know Chuck has been with the Stones since 1982 and Ian Stewart didn’t always play every song on stage with them on every tour. I know people are going to correct me. But it’s my opinion and that’s what it is – it is an opinion and my point being that the Stones invented themselves 3 times.
1. Brian Jones starts the band and the 1960’s
2. 1970-1982 Ian Stewart is a major part of The Rolling Stones on the road and in the studio.
3 Post Ian Stewart. Chuck Leavell was the start of what the band has become today. Jumping Jack Flash doesn’t sound today like it did in 1975 or 1968. Get off my Cloud is not the same song today as it was in the early 60’s certainly not in the 70’s.

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Dua Lipa & Mick Jagger?

Mick, Dua Lipa, 11-2022

There’s an article over at Billboard.com headlining “Here’s Why Fans Think Dua Lipa Is Hinting at a Possible Mick Jagger Collaboration – Does Dua’s future include even more nostalgia?”

So the article tells about pop star Dua Lipa, who posted photos of her and Mick in the studio last Saturday, where she probably recorded more music. So that could point to another collaboration with ‘nostalgia’ as she already had been working with Elton John before. There’s a pic showing her with Joni Mitchell, too…

Neither Mick nor Dua commented about this. Anyway, here are the two pics from Dua Lipa’s Instagram:

 

Mick, Dua Lipa, 11-2022
Mick, Dua Lipa, 11-2022

Nice find at Variety

Torino-Film-Fest

Nice find: Mick Jagger’s Desire to Play Alex in ‘A Clockwork Orange’ Shared by Malcolm McDowell at Beatles Vs. Stones Extravaganza in Turin 

The Torino Film Festival, under the direction of Steve Della Casa, launched its 40th edition on Friday evening at the sumptuous Teatro Regio not with a film screening, but with an evening devoted to music. To evoke the links between cinema and music, a talk took place around the theme of the Beatles versus the Rolling Stones, and the bands’ love of cinema, which led them to work with Jean-Luc Godard and Martin Scorsese, among others.

Nice find, this! Go to variety.com, read the rest – some nice details about both bands…

Thanks to Steve [UC] for pointing this out

Greetings to Joe Walsh

Happy birthday, Joe Walsh!

Yup, Happy Birthday, guitar master Joe Walsh!

Lots of friends and famous people greeted Joe who celebrated his 75th birtday on Sunday, November 20.

On Facebook, we can see and hear the many different but always heartfelt greetings to Joe, among them right after Sheryl Crow Keith (at 1:30) and Ronnie (at 1:40).
Ronnie, BTW, greeted Joe “from the studio in LA” !

Happy birthday, Joe Walsh!I think, we all can guess what that means – the Stones are still in LA, working on the new album. Of course, that depends, when that greeting of Ronnie was recorded. But we can guess safely, that it was just recently.

Thanks for the tip, Steve – he sent me a note about this … watch the whole thing here on Facebook

And here’s Keith’s tweet:

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2000 lightyears

2000 lightyears

This was just released: another one from ABCKO…

The Rolling Stones just released a video on YouTube: 2000 Lightyears From Home of the album Her Satanic Majesties Request.

Originally shot using 35mm film, this 1967 “promotional” movie has now been restored in 4K resolution

Enjoy!

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Another video (ABCKOvevo) is Lady Jane:

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Mono Stones

Colored vinyl box ABCKO

Another huge release from ABKCO hits the stores and the hearts of any collector!

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  • It’s a release of The Rolling Stones’ entire studio output of the 1960s  (between 1963 and 1969) – no less.
  • And it’s a limited edition. Yea, right.
  • And: it’s all in MONO.
  • And it’s issued in a 16 LP colored vinyl Box Set.
  • And it includes a 48-page booklet featuring a essay by David Fricke (Rolling Stone) as well as color photos
  • And it’s mastered in Direct Stream Digital (DSD) from the original mono master recordings, by Bob Ludwig and lacquer cutting by Sean Magee at Abbey Road Studios
  • And it contains the differnet UK and US versions of the albums Out Of Our Heads and Aftermath, so it’s the original 14 mono albums plus a special collection – Stray Cats
  • Release date is January 20th, 2023

Colored vinyl box ABCKO

LP 1: The Rolling Stones (UK) [Cobalt Blue vinyl]

  1. Route 66
  2. I Just Want To Make Love To You
  3. Honest I Do
  4. Mona (I Need You Baby)
  5. Now I’ve Got A Witness
  6. Little By Little
  7. I’m A King Bee
  8. Carol
  9. Tell Me
  10. Can I Get A Witness
  11. You Can Make It If You Try
  12. Walking The Dog

LP 2: 12 x 5 [Yellow vinyl]

  1. Around And Around
  2. Confessin’ The Blues
  3. Empty Heart
  4. Time Is On My Side
  5. Good Times, Bad Times
  6. It’s All Over Now
  7. 2120 South Michigan Avenue
  8. Under The Boardwalk
  9. Congratulations
  10. Grown Up Wrong
  11. If You Need Me
  12. Susie Q

LP 3: The Rolling Stones No. 2 [Steel Blue vinyl]

  1. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
  2. Down Home Girl
  3. You Can’t Catch Me
  4. Time Is On My Side
  5. What A Shame
  6. Grown Up Wrong
  7. Down The Road Apiece
  8. Under The Boardwalk
  9. I Can’t Be Satisfied
  10. Pain In My Heart
  11. Off The Hook
  12. Susie Q

LP 4: The Rolling Stones, Now! [Gold vinyl]

  1. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
  2. Down Home Girl
  3. You Can’t Catch Me
  4. Heart Of Stone
  5. What A Shame
  6. Mona (I Need You Baby)
  7. Down The Road Apiece
  8. Off The Hook
  9. Pain In My Heart
  10. Oh, Baby (We Got A Good Thing Goin’)
  11. Little Red Rooster
  12. Surprise, Surprise

LP 5: Out Of Our Heads (US) [Sky Blue vinyl]

  1. Mercy Mercy
  2. Hitch Hike
  3. The Last Time
  4. That’s How Strong My Love Is
  5. Good Times
  6. I’m All Right
  7. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
  8. Cry To Me
  9. The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man
  10. Play With Fire
  11. The Spider And The Fly
  12. One More Try

LP 6: Out Of Our Heads (UK) [Green vinyl]

  1. She Said Yeah
  2. Mercy Mercy
  3. Hitch Hike
  4. That’s How Strong My Love Is
  5. Good Times
  6. Gotta Get Away
  7. Talkin’ ‘Bout You
  8. Cry To Me
  9. Oh, Baby (We Got A Good Thing Goin’)
  10. Heart Of Stone
  11. The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man
  12. I’m Free

LP 7: December’s Children (And Everybody’s) [Silver vinyl]

  1. She Said Yeah
  2. Talkin’ Bout You
  3. You Better Move On
  4. Look What You’ve Done
  5. The Singer Not The Song
  6. Route 66
  7. Get Off Of My Cloud
  8. I’m Free
  9. As Tears Go By
  10. Gotta Get Away
  11. Blue Turns To Grey
  12. I’m Moving On

LP 8: Aftermath (UK) [Purple vinyl]

  1. Mother’s Little Helper
  2. Stupid Girl
  3. Lady Jane
  4. Under My Thumb
  5. Doncha Bother Me
  6. Going Home
  7. Flight 505
  8. High And Dry
  9. Out Of Time
  10. It’s Not Easy
  11. I Am Waiting
  12. Take It Or Leave It
  13. Think
  14. What To Do

LP 9: Aftermath (US) [Grey vinyl]

  1. 1Paint It, Black
  2. Stupid Girl
  3. Lady Jane
  4. Under My Thumb
  5. Doncha Bother Me
  6. Think
  7. Flight 505
  8. High And Dry
  9. It’s Not Easy
  10. I Am Waiting
  11. Going Home

LP 10: Between The Buttons (UK) [Azure Blue vinyl]

  1. Yesterday’s Papers
  2. My Obsession
  3. Back Street Girl
  4. Connection
  5. She Smiled Sweetly
  6. Cool, Calm & Collected
  7. All Sold Out
  8. Please Go Home
  9. Who’ s Been Sleeping Here?
  10. Complicated
  11. Miss Amanda Jones
  12. Something Happened To Me Yesterday

LP 11: Flowers [Pink vinyl]

  1. Ruby Tuesday
  2. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?
  3. Let’s Spend The Night Together
  4. Lady Jane
  5. Out Of Time
  6. My Girl
  7. Back Street Girl
  8. Please Go Home
  9. Mother’s Little Helper
  10. Take It Or Leave It
  11. Ride On, Baby
  12. Sittin’ On A Fence

LP 12: Their Satanic Majesties Request [White vinyl]

  1. Sing This All Together
  2. Citadel
  3. In Another Land
  4. 2000 Man
  5. Sing This All Together (See What Happens)
  6. She’s A Rainbow
  7. The Lantern
  8. Gomper
  9. 2000 Light Years From Home
  10. On With The Show

LP 13: Beggars Banquet [Maroon vinyl]

  1. Sympathy For The Devil
  2. No Expectations
  3. Dear Doctor
  4. Parachute Woman
  5. Jig-saw Puzzle
  6. Street Fighting Man
  7. Prodigal Son
  8. Stray Cat Blues
  9. Factory Girl
  10. Salt Of The Earth

LP 14: Let It Bleed [Red vinyl]

  1. Gimme Shelter
  2. Love In Vain
  3. Country Honk
  4. Live With Me
  5. Let It Bleed
  6. Midnight Rambler
  7. You Got The Silver
  8. Monkey Man
  9. You Can’t Always Get What You Want

LP 15 & 16 Stray Cats compilation [White vinyl]

  1. Come On
  2. I Want To Be Loved
  3. I Wanna Be Your Man
  4. Stoned
  5. Fortune Teller
  6. Poison Ivy (Version 1)
  7. Bye Bye Johnny
  8. Money
  9. Poison Ivy (Verison 2)
  10. Not Fade Away
  11. I’ve Been Loving You Too Long
  12. The Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man (Single)
  13. 19th Nervous Breakdown
  14. Sad Day
  15. Con Le Mie Lacrime (As Tears Go By)
  16. Long, Long While
  17. Who’s Driving Your Plane?
  18. We Love You (Single Version)
  19. Dandelion
  20. Child Of The Moon
  21. Jumpin’ Jack Flash
  22. Street Fighting Man (Single)
  23. Honky Tonk Women
  24. You Can’t Always Get What You Want (Single)
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